Why do I want this? 

"Svend" (svend) 10/26/2017 at 00:28 • Filed to: None

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I’ve had a couple of beers but looking at Autotrader, after looking at a Subaru Impreza concept on Jalopnik made me think of the Subaru Levorg.

It’s a 1.6 litre petrol with 167bhp, but it’s automatic only and 39mpg. That’s not 39USmpg but 39UKmpg(32.5USmpg)

So why do I want this when I could have a manual, petrol Skoda Superb Sportline estate in dragon green?

Kat Callahan > Svend 10/26/2017 at 00:35

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That Skoda is amazing. I still love the Levorg though, too.

Svend > Kat Callahan 10/26/2017 at 00:40

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It’s a spec up from what I’ve got (SE L Exec) and it’s in estate form.

I’d still go for the 148bhp 1.4TSi ACT.

Wagon Guy drives a Boostang > Svend 10/26/2017 at 00:45

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I love the Levorg, but would want a manual. I do love the color on the Skoda though.

Svend > Wagon Guy drives a Boostang 10/26/2017 at 00:54

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The Levorg looks good but the gearbox, mpg and engine let it down for me.

I get 25% more mpg from my Skoda 1.4TSi and I get a manual gearbox.

Wagon Guy drives a Boostang > Svend 10/26/2017 at 01:06

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And you get that awesome green.

Svend > Wagon Guy drives a Boostang 10/26/2017 at 01:11

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It’s a beautiful colour. A company I know detailed one owned by a guy on a Skoda forum I’m on.

Dusty Ventures > Svend 10/26/2017 at 02:02

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I dig the Levorg, but it would need about 100 more hp and a manual (and be available in the States) to coax me out of my Outback

Svend > Dusty Ventures 10/26/2017 at 02:08

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It does look good.

I’m not so much about the horsepower as I am that’s it’s not a manual and not so good mpg.

gettingoldercarguy > Svend 10/26/2017 at 03:35

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Because sti swap, Colin McRae, Richard Burns and an intangible link to youth that a quirky Subaru reconstitutes.

Svend > gettingoldercarguy 10/26/2017 at 05:18

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SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > Svend 10/26/2017 at 06:29

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I have no idea. Perhaps you should drink less?

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Svend 10/26/2017 at 06:55

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Not so good?! Most North American Subaru owners would kill to get 32mpg. I think my coworker is pulling around 15mph. It’s so bad, even with our cheap petrol, that he avoids driving when we all go out to lunch. The guy with the jacked-up V8 F-150 gets better fuel economy...

I dig the Levorg, too.

Cé hé sin > Svend 10/26/2017 at 06:59

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Proof then that somebody somewhere has actually bought a Subaru. I see maybe half a dozen new ones a year and I don’t think any of those are a Levorg.

Svend > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 10/26/2017 at 07:21

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Okay, we’ll call that plan B, no wait, C, erm, got it, we’ll call it the last plan. :)

pip bip - choose Corrour > Svend 10/26/2017 at 08:12

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go for the Skoda

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > Svend 10/26/2017 at 08:17

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I’m surprised it’s gas mileage is rated so low. Over here the Legacy has a 2.5l, weighs more, and is rated up to 34mpg highway.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Cé hé sin 10/26/2017 at 08:26

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Come to America. They are everywhere over here.

Svend > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 10/26/2017 at 08:30

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While 39mpg UK isn’t awful.

It’s not good.

Svend > DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back 10/26/2017 at 08:51

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We don’t have the Legacy (since 2014), but we do have the Outback Legacy 2.5 petrol rated at 40mpg UK (33mpg US).

The Levorg here, you’d think would do better mpg than a larger engine.

Take the Ford Mondeo/Fusion estate.

Petrol (larger, more power, less economy)

2.0 Ecoboost 236bhp does 37mpg while the

1.0 Ecoboost 123bhp does 54mpg.

Diesel (larger, more power, less economy)

2.0 TDCi 147-207bhp does 52-64mpg while the

1.5-1.6 TDCi 113-118bhp does 74mpg.

Svend > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/26/2017 at 09:01

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If I got a do over, I’d still pick the Skoda Superb.

I was going to go for the estate when I got Piglet but didn’t need all that size after having the Mk2 Superb estate.

Cé hé sin > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 10/26/2017 at 10:06

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Adds to list of oddities about the Americans

-they buy Subarus

-they buy Kia Souls

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Svend 10/26/2017 at 10:56

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Why do I have to be trapped in America? It’s not fair that you have other options for family cars besides minivans (non-driving fucks), four door pickups (priced up like luxury MBs or Audis), and an amorphous gelatinous blob of CUVs.

Automakers, I have money, I have a kid, I have 2 dogs and a partner why you no can make a reasonable (<40K USD) wagon with modest long term maintenance (<$1500 annually)?

That SKoda is amazeballs btw =, call the jelly school because I’m guilty of jealousy in the 1st degree.

benjrblant > DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back 10/26/2017 at 11:01

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2.5L isn’t turbo’d. Plus, fuel efficiency testing systems vary by region.

benjrblant > Svend 10/26/2017 at 11:05

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I think the Levorg is a great looking car. I’m incredibly angry with Subaru for not bringing it to the ‘States, especially considering that the US is one of Subaru’s biggest markets and they somehow manage to sell more wagons and hatches than any other automaker sells here.

Svend > benjrblant 10/26/2017 at 11:13

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I’m not sure the 1.6 would of been appreciated in the U.S. where bigger and more power is better.

benjrblant > Svend 10/26/2017 at 11:14

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True. I’d imagine it would need the 2.0 or the 2.5l. And of course, an STI version.

Svend > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 10/26/2017 at 11:50

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The manual, hatchback and estate are still king but unfortunately autos and crossovers are creeping in with larger says each year.

The Skoda Superb estate would be ideal for you.

The 1.4TSi ACT 148bhp, 45-63mpg UK (37-52mpg US).

The 2.0TSi 276bhp, 36-53mpg UK (30-44mpg US).

The 2.0TDi 187bhp, 52-69mpg UK (43-57mpg US).

Many young families love the rear legroom as kids can’t reach the back of the front seats with their feet. Lol.

Svend > benjrblant 10/26/2017 at 11:54

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Even then I’d imagine there would still be some whining about it being under powered. Lol.

benjrblant > Svend 10/26/2017 at 11:59

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Complaining about lack of power is one of the many things we’re great at.

Then again, if you’ve ever driven through Kansas or Northwestern Texas, There’s not enough power in the world to make that go by fast enough.

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > benjrblant 10/26/2017 at 12:08

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Yeah I’m guessing the UK has a better fuel economy test. The real world has shown that downsizing + turbo doesn’t necessarily mean better mpg, so perhaps the UK test better reflects that.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Svend 10/26/2017 at 12:19

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Okay Svend we need to put our heads together to concoct a plan to get me working in the English or Scottish or French countryside for a few years. (Don’t want to relinquish US citizenship becuase Vet bennies) but fo sho I need to live and work overseas again. I am getting stir crazy here in the US again.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Cé hé sin 10/26/2017 at 12:21

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Americans just love Subarus. I believe it is the only brand in the US to show year over year sales growth every year since 2006. By building practical AWD cars and marketing them as adventure mobiles (particularly the Outback and the Forester) they were able to tap into the now massive crossover market 15+ years before the Crossover market became a thing.

Svend > benjrblant 10/26/2017 at 12:23

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I’m sure they are nice enough places, in there own right.

Our areas near me while smaller and quicker to get through, unfortunately are still there. Yep, Cumbria’s west coast (Workington, Whiteaven, Maryport, Millom, Seascale, etc...). Where time forgot and the gene pool is really shallow. They are good swimmers though, the extras toes and webbing in between them really help propel them through the water.

Svend > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 10/26/2017 at 12:36

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Hmmm. Why only those three areas? Lol.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Svend 10/26/2017 at 15:38

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Ease of cultural assimilation.

If only I was a diplomat i could get those sweet sweet dip tags and have whatever car i wanted.

gettingoldercarguy > Svend 10/26/2017 at 18:07

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Yeah, I wasn’t saying anything against Skoda, rather projecting why the Subaru has the appeal it does through my eyes.

Svend > gettingoldercarguy 10/26/2017 at 19:26

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Ye’, no worries. I didn’t think you were.

I was just pointing out Skodas racing heritage on the rally scene.

While I like the look of the Subaru, I also love the look of the Skoda (hell, I own the Superb in liftback form).

Textured Soy Protein > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 11/02/2017 at 01:21

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Buick is here for you as long as you can put up with some unfortunate Outbacktification of your wagon.

Like all wagons, it’s better pre-Outbacktification, but automakers have basically decided the only way US consumers will buy wagons is if they’re Outbacktified.

There’s always a used Acura TSX wagon for your de-Outbacktified needs.